Draguignan - La Croix Valmer
189.2 km
One of the highlights of the early season program. The always aggressively raced Tour du Haut Var follows the Tour Med on the prep course for riders aiming for the early results at Paris-Nice. Although it consists of two stages this is essentially two one day races. A flatter one today and a hilly /uphill finish stage tomorrow.
Podiumcafe likely suspect: Romain Feillu
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0 recs | 120 comments
Am I reading this right? Simultaneous viddy?!?
How will that work? If I’m awake in 3 hours ;\
Aly Edge - February 18, 2012
Thanks for not saying "First."
tehGrindCrusher - February 18, 2012
I find that practice to be incredibly idiotic
(and notice how I’m only commenting on it when someone directed a comment to me about it? I’ve been trying to play nice :) )
Aly Edge - February 18, 2012
You and me both, sister.
That’s why I commended you on showing such restraint. Pretty much anything other than a verbatim quote from Mein Kampf is better in my opinion.
tehGrindCrusher - February 18, 2012
Whilst I agree with you, Mein Kampf may be going a tad too far, but I noticed that a friend of mine put this up
at the Cyclingtips blog, so I saved it for just such an occasion.

Seahorse - February 18, 2012
an editorial comment from the distant past:
“if you would inform, a positive dogmatical Manner in advancing your Sentiments, may provoke Contradiction & prevent a Candid Attention. If you wish Information & Improivement from the Knowledge of others and yet at the same time express yourself as firmly fix’d in your present Opinions, modest sensible Men, who do not love Disputation, will probably leave you undisturb’d in the Possession of your Error; and by such a Manner you can seldom hope to recommend yourself in pleasing your hearers, or to persuade those whose Concurrence you desire.”
R Mc - February 18, 2012
I'll just say 'first idiot' next time
broerie - February 18, 2012
Degenkolb will take the win today.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
I was hoping for howard, but you may well be right.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
with just about all the top sprinters hanging out in Oman, we probably need to dig
a little deeper:
Hushovd
Bosic
Cantwell
Rojas
I am going to stop here of fear of looking like a complete imbecile.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
I sincerely hope Jens is wrong and it won't be Feillu. he's a menace.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
is he?
Uphill - February 18, 2012
I've heard it after sprint finishes a number of times. the last time it was Goss at the TDU, but I also have a vague
recollection of at least one sprint in last year’s TdF where he was talked about after a sprint.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
PODIUM
I’m saying it cause I can.
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
freedom fighter
Uphill - February 18, 2012
i do like fries
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
you go girl
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
o/t Pon Holdings acquires Cervelo.
piece on CN website.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
and, if you need time to kill, you can go rewatch last year's haut var.
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
you got it on disk?
Uphill - February 18, 2012
well, yes. but you can also watch it online. cyclingfans has the links to the full coverage.
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
(there are few races i don't have a disk)
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
I remember buying a 10mb HDD for about $2000 in the past.
Rode my bike ever since.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
now that's a blast from the past
currently, i have around 20 2tb hard drives wandering around this house attached to machines.
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
Hey gs!
I thought the Caubergcross was going to be on tv, but I can’t find it. Any ideas?
broerie - February 18, 2012
not for another hour. and, it's on exqi
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
Found it!
I was convinced it was 15h already
broerie - February 18, 2012
It is, on TV Limburg
Live thread: www.podiumcafe.com/2012/2/18/2807887/caubergcross-live
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
Exqui too
But I’m going to check if I can find tv Limburg, never watched it before
broerie - February 18, 2012
They've got Erwin Vervecken as co-commentator
so that should be fine
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
Good morning peoples..!
pablo777 - February 18, 2012
afternoon
broerie - February 18, 2012
to you I am getting ready to go for a ride...
Tomorrow is a club race and I don’t know the course or the area… so Mister Frank will take me there in a few to ride around the course.
pablo777 - February 18, 2012
Always a good idea
But save your energy for tomorrow!
broerie - February 18, 2012
Don't worry I won't be chasing any KOMs today...
2 km uphill in the dirt will be a segment when I come back… is like small circuit of 10 km and I believe is 3 laps.
pablo777 - February 18, 2012
meanwhile, nibali wins stage 5 of oman
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
so many races going on..!
pablo777 - February 18, 2012
Peter Velits is second. Just waiting to hear who came third and who now has race leader's jersey.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
and i had just swapped him for Scarponi
Now i need to rethink, again
mb2612 - February 18, 2012
very nice.
Perhaps a long range attack?
Uphill - February 18, 2012
from 5km out with velits. then dropped velits and soloed to the finish.
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
hopefully he will end up with the leaders jersey then
Uphill - February 18, 2012
nope. velits.
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
well done to him.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
Caubergcross starts in 10 minutes
FYI.
http://www.podiumcafe.com/2012/2/18/2807887/caubergcross-live
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
I see Voeckler.
majope - February 18, 2012
Studio folk now.
majope - February 18, 2012
Tiernan-Lock speaking French.
majope - February 18, 2012
Beautiful stream
Jens - February 18, 2012
+une
majope - February 18, 2012
Who is the ex-Phonak rider who is doing the expert commentary?
Holdenmate - February 18, 2012
Meanwhile over in Italy
ORDER OF ARRIVAL: 1, Moreno MOSER (ITA, Liquigas – Cannondale), 2 ° Miguel Angel Rubiano Chavez (Col, Androni – Venezuela), 3 ° Montaguti Matthew (Eng, Ag2r La Mondiale) 4° GianLuca BRAMBILLA (Ita, Colnago – CSF), 5° Francesco GAVAZZI (Ita, Astana)
andrewp - February 18, 2012
Moreno MOSER
interesting pick for the U25 VDS
broerie - February 18, 2012
and Chavez
Uphill - February 18, 2012
It's not that Chavez
the one who won l’Avenir rides for Colombia Coldeportes
broerie - February 18, 2012
well, I have someone called Chavez on my team
Uphill - February 18, 2012
But I already submitted my team
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
Me too
(without Moser)
broerie - February 18, 2012
What channel is Haut Var on?
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
http://cote-d-azur.france3.fr/tour-du-haut-var/index.php?page=article&numsite=6302&id_article=21761&id_rubrique=6305
Jens - February 18, 2012
Ah, so France 3
Let’s see if my tv understands what that means
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
You know, the one I linked above.
majope - February 18, 2012
I meant tv channel
sorry
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
france 3 regional
cote d’azur and provence
andrewp - February 18, 2012
Ah
that explains why my France 3 has a dude standing on a hill talking about the ocean
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
also, thanks
tgsgirl - February 18, 2012
not geographically kind to belgium :)
andrewp - February 18, 2012
How far?
Do I have time to go buying some food?
broerie - February 18, 2012
Depending on which passage of the finish line that was
Distance to go/gone estimated time at 42/39/35 km’h
24,4 164,8 Premier passage ligne d’Arrivée ( montée village étroite ) 16:14:41 16:32:52 17:01:47
18,3 170,9 Deuxième passage ligne d’Arrivée 16:23:23 16:42:15 17:12:14
12,2 177,0 Troisième passage ligne d’Arrivée 16:32:05 16:51:38 17:22:41
6,1 183,1 Quatrième passage ligne d’Arrivée 16:40:47 17:01:01 17:33:08
0,0 189,2 Arrivée finale La Croix Valmer Le Forum 16:49:29 17:10:24 17:43:35
andrewp - February 18, 2012
That got me confused, I'll wait and watch
broerie - February 18, 2012
probably btwn 3rd and 4th lap
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
Beppu sighting :)
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
Haut Var
Hardy and Koretsky → 55 s Bertogliati, Madrazo and Georges → 1.30 peloton
And Allez Hardy. He is going to win :)
Frinking - February 18, 2012
thank you. I'm finding this very confusing.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
They keep showing the dropped riders
broerie - February 18, 2012
Thanks. I was wondering, and the circuit seems tiny.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
2 laps to go - 12.2km
(the little man with the sign fianlly faced the camera)
andrewp - February 18, 2012
so ths is like a US crit race?
Uphill - February 18, 2012
164 km en ligne
then 5 laps of 6km round the finish town
andrewp - February 18, 2012
ahh, ok. modern style parcours
Uphill - February 18, 2012
No...
…crit courses are usually 1-2 miles long max
Ed K - February 18, 2012
really that "small"?
damn.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
Yeah, so lots and lots of laps of a pretty short course...
…is usually how they work.
Ed K - February 18, 2012
In Algvare
A breakaway with: Algavre → Breschel, Devenyns, Bussche, Sanchez Pimenta, Pardilla, Bakelnts, Cherel, van Avermaet
Frinking - February 18, 2012
has it's own thread, frinking
umwolverine - February 18, 2012
I can not open 2 streams + 2 threads so I'll shut up
Frinking - February 18, 2012
No don't..my computer's struggling as is my brain.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
You only have to remember.
They ride 150km(?) and at the end Hardy wins ;)
Frinking - February 18, 2012
Hardy is looking a bit tired to me
uninformed consent - February 18, 2012
He has a good trainer in Voeckler
The facing is just to confuse the opponents
Frinking - February 18, 2012
Ha! even the pedaling style!
uninformed consent - February 18, 2012
I was thinking of another 'H"...Howard, and isn't it 180 k's today?
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
+ Kroon and Leukemans
Frinking - February 18, 2012
Wow, BMC blown out of the water
Jens - February 18, 2012
Struggling to get an overview here.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
a kilometre to go?
Frinking - February 18, 2012
NOOOOOOO
Frinking - February 18, 2012
Really don't have a clue. Both way to with to see the difference
Frinking - February 18, 2012
white
Frinking - February 18, 2012
So seriously, who won? i thought there were about 20 k's to go.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
Koretszky beats Hardy
god know who was third
andrewp - February 18, 2012
I was thinking that..
Too bad
Frinking - February 18, 2012
This was not France 3's best ever cycling broadcast, I think we can all agree.
Ed K - February 18, 2012
Fixed cam FTW!
Jens - February 18, 2012
Yeah
Frinking - February 18, 2012
very regional
no moto cam on final circuit, seems just fixed camera. Bit like watching a horse race in the fog, with runners only in view for part of the course
andrewp - February 18, 2012
they kept showing dudes with moto-cams... but never did we see shots from moto-cams.
Ed K - February 18, 2012
Low budget stream>No stream
attackagain! - February 18, 2012
CQRanking gives Hardy...
My French sucks so I dunnp
Frinking - February 18, 2012
Odd, b/c I could have sworn they were saying the opposite...
…but my verbal French isn’t great either.
Ed K - February 18, 2012
me too/mine too
i retire gracefully from trying to understand the commentary
andrewp - February 18, 2012
They gave a clue by saying a Frenchman won!
Frinking - February 18, 2012
too late for me
credibility in tatters :)
andrewp - February 18, 2012
Peloton sprinted for 4th?
uninformed consent - February 18, 2012
Hardy won!!!
The hero. the next TdF winner!
Frinking - February 18, 2012
1. Romain Hardy (Bretagne-Schuller) 2. Clément Koretzcky (VC La Pomme) 3. Guillaume Levarlet (Saur Sojasun)
Frinking - February 18, 2012
or 3 Tiernan-Locke.
Shoot me
Frinking - February 18, 2012
I think we'll give you a stay of execution for now. Happy your boy won.
Seahorse - February 18, 2012
I have to check the map to see where the finish was.
Looked cold there; but still, the sun was shining and it is France! A mini-vacation for my eyes!
uninformed consent - February 18, 2012
indeed. very nice.
Uphill - February 18, 2012
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