Faro - Lagoa 187.5 km
After a rather unorganized sprint yesterday where Lotto once again came out on top with Gianni Meersman (how many hired him on their FSA DS teams after that?) today's stage offers a similar route. Quite hilly and challenging but with an easier final 40 kms. This may prove a challenge to keep together for a sprint
Podiumcafe likely suspect: Michael van Staeyen
Official site , Startlist , Stageinfo
Live video:16:30 CET (10:30 US EST, 02:30 AUS EDT)
Video: RTP 2 Portugal , steephill , cyclingfans , Procyclinglive , Sports Livez.
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Checks under elbow to see if anyone’s on his wheel
broerie - February 16, 2012
You clipped my back wheel with under 3km to go. Careless move.
I may not have won today because of you but I get the same time and still lead the overall.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Where do I have to deposit the money?
broerie - February 16, 2012
Now that's not cricket...
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Why must you jinx Topsport like that Jens?
Leave Belgium alone!
Vlaanderen90 - February 16, 2012
I was surprised to see him do so well the other day.
Usually he’s only good in autumn
broerie - February 16, 2012
I like MvS, he's feisty
Jens - February 16, 2012
After his non selection for the U23 worlds two years ago, he sent the National coach a text message full of insults. In some ways he’s a bit like Cav.
broerie - February 16, 2012
8th is okay...
I think he will go better this year for the spring
Vlaanderen90 - February 16, 2012
8th, not that good then
broerie - February 16, 2012
3rd place
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
I have to go to work.... see you all in a few.... Is chilly outside
a few more weeks and spring is here….. Yack drizzle outside? Oh well where did I put the freaking rain coat…?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
broerie UFO is ready for take off....
Oh I added another light to it…!!! Sweet I look like a Christmas tree on a bike…!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Projected finish time?
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
17:15
broerie - February 16, 2012
Honestly never thought about Portugal not being on CET
doh
Jens - February 16, 2012
Portuguese time or Belgie time?
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Tell us, Broerie!
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
Leffe (CET) time
16:15 Alentejo time
Jens - February 16, 2012
Right. Obrigado.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Buncha lazy bums!
If you’d click the links Jens posted, you’d know.
Kids these days….
broerie - February 16, 2012
I'm deep in the middle of a complicated search about deworming programmes in Africa.
Multitasking, so strenuous.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Can't they send in requests for info on stuff like deworming *after* lunch?
Jens - February 16, 2012
Apparently not.
I was going to go and get a chocolate from the box next door but then I started reading abstracts. I thought better of it.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
I have to correct 4 more pages and then I’ll have boulettes Liégoises! Yummie
broerie - February 16, 2012
Oh my, that looks divine.
Which beer will you pick as an accompaniment?
Albertina - February 16, 2012
none unfortunately
water :(
broerie - February 16, 2012
Having to work after lunch can be such a downer
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Burn the heretic!
Jens - February 16, 2012
He made up his own version. Missing out the e after the g has saved his soul.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
my very own special recipe
broerie - February 16, 2012
Yesterday my reading topic was fecal-oral E. coli transmission among giraffes.
Today it’s matricide among yellowjacket wasps.
At least there’s lots of variety!
GreylockGrinder - February 16, 2012
Variety is the spice of life!
This afternoon I will be looking at the mental health of political/military/religious leaders and the police after major disasters.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Giraffes nowadays…
broerie - February 16, 2012
Animals or People on the deworming thing?
2thvet - February 16, 2012
Preferably people, but I looked at animal papers too
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Wanted the last bit only, but wth here we go. Last few kms seems interesting.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Hermans or GVA
broerie - February 16, 2012
Ciolek, für mich
Vlaanderen90 - February 16, 2012
für Milch?
that was 4 years ago
broerie - February 16, 2012
Guy in bikeshop tried to hype the Focus bikes he was selling
by telling me they were currently used by pro teams Kabousha and Team Milram.
Jens - February 16, 2012
Breschel will get close again.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
And I made it... anything happened yet?
at work making coffee now… yummmmm
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Coffee is ready..! time to wake up people..!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
About to get my first cup, if I can decide what I want.
majope - February 16, 2012
at work we don't have that problem..
What was on special offer last weekend?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
I used to hammer down French Roast from Keurig in the morning.
Not the best taste, but worked very well.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
We have several of their extra bold coffees on hand...Black Tiger, Jet Fuel, Parisian Nights, Dark Magic, Revv (even more caffeine), and something else with dark or black in the title.
And those are just the extra bolds… I go stare at the choices and feel sort of like this. Coffee…coffee…coffee!
majope - February 16, 2012
Nice.
Don’t think the system was that developed when we had it in the office, perhaps 10-12 years ago. Max 8-10 diff types I think.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
I saw that link and was thinking it would be Brendon Frazier in George of the Jungle
Java, Java, Java, Java, Java, Java, Java!!!!!!!
2thvet - February 16, 2012
Brendan Fraser?
Never heard of him.
majope - February 16, 2012
I had breakfast at home...
Cheese sandwich with coffee and creamer…. now is just a boost.
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Watch out, Holmovka's coming!
broerie - February 16, 2012
No he's not...Cav just lost to Kittel in Oman. He's huddled in the corner with a handkerchief, poor man.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Oh really?? Nice!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Wow, you're cruel.
majope - February 16, 2012
Watching twitter, something must have gone wrong for Cav right at the death.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Good morning!
I heard Cav gave some present to Kittel in Oman! Good man!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
:)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
What, for being a Brit who doesn't care for Cav?
Don’t worry, I’ll send Holmovka a Leffe.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Make that a vodka to be safe.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
No, for saying Nice! to poor Holmovka huddled in the corner.
majope - February 16, 2012
Yes, I realised that just after. Was too bound up in Cav not winning ;)
I’m not really mean, honest!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Good to hear. Most pelota-loving, 'cross-racing, classical music-singing vicar's daughters are quite nice.
I was concerned you might be the exception.
majope - February 16, 2012
I'm glad there was no mention of carrots ;)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
And you've met how many?
Albertina - February 16, 2012
I can barely count that high, at least until my second cup of coffee.
But at a guess, I’d hazard…one.
majope - February 16, 2012
It’s ok! Cav will grow on you, give him few more years.
holmovka - February 16, 2012
Believe me I've been trying to like him ever since he turned pro and it's not going to happen!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Cause you not really a Brit, you are Belgian!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
I like Cav, and I'm quite belgian too
broerie - February 16, 2012
Didn't you just go ice-skating?
Seems awful dutch to me
Jens - February 16, 2012
I'm not proud of it
:(
broerie - February 16, 2012
You have a choice, to like him or not.
But for English people ( and all my office workers! ) this is mandatory!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
Greipel for the win...!!!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Ape’s lover!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
You know, my worry with Cav is that he's so very bright that he'll become bored.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
i think he's too passionate about racing to become bored
Never have been a fan, but after reading his book, it’s clear that he loves to ride his bike. I don’t see him long in the sport though. Don’t think he could handle taking the McEwen route of slowing riding into the sunset, ending a career taking a few wins here and there and helping bring up a new class of sprinters. Once Cav stops being dominant, I see him getting out of the game.
PopUp Rolen - February 16, 2012
You could well be right. I agree he's passionate and I'm a fan because of that, but I'm curious about
what his future may hold.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Run to the liquer store and buy a couple of bottles of Vodka.
broerie - February 16, 2012
Great minds :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
приветственные восклицания
broerie - February 16, 2012
Please don't tell me that that says, 'and fools never differ'.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
It says 'Cheers'
broerie - February 16, 2012
Hehe! Bravo! Broerie
holmovka - February 16, 2012
I'm off to buy lunch. It's a baguette day!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
So how much does Kittel cost?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
8 points less than Cav.
majope - February 16, 2012
12?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
He's a bargain
Jens - February 16, 2012
It’s his doctor who’s expensiveLive thread
broerie - February 16, 2012
We're almost 3h away from this being anywhere near live
so what the heck.
(the Kittel thing seems so weak even I have my doubts and I judge everyone from day one, ask anyone)
Jens - February 16, 2012
yay!!!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I know, I even agree with you
But everytime he beats Cav, I’ll bring it up again.
broerie - February 16, 2012
Guilty 'til proven innocent?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Hell yeah!
Jens - February 16, 2012
Nah, it’s just that I prefer the explosive pocket sprinter types (Cav, Guardini, McEwen, Bouhanni….)
broerie - February 16, 2012
Fair enough :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I'll sharpen my pitchfork
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
It's always sharp.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
All the stabbing make it blunt from time to time
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
I'll send you a whetstone. A blunted weapon hurts more.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Cancel the whetstone
Jens - February 16, 2012
So Greipel was second. The German Olympic RR team are looking fairly ominous I'd say.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Bouhanni 3rd and Cav 8th. Renshaw and Cav might regret their breakup...
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Nice ride from Bouhanni
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Very. He's been looking quite good.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
today's ticker. best to open in chrome for easy translation options
stage 2 ticker
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Has Klodi won yet?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Bouhanni 3rd in Oman
Grzdylu - February 16, 2012
Cav 8th
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
Perfect! Cav finally heard my prayers to take it easy!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
I'd love to see him winning MSR in the rainbow stripes
broerie - February 16, 2012
So would he.
majope - February 16, 2012
Great! I’ll drink Albertina’s vodka for that!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
As long as you don't touch my Belgian beer supply it's all good
Albertina - February 16, 2012
If cav wins, you also need to send holmy the fainting couch.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I'll post him my inflatable one
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Don't be stingy...did we bequeath it to you?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Isn’t it one of the principals on which our Café was build?
" Every members right is to have the fainting couch in time of needs"
holmovka - February 16, 2012
exactly!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I will review the situation closer to the time.
It all depends on what the Euskies are up to.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
three escapees lead by 3.15 after 10km
Niels Wytinck (An Post Sean Kelly Team)
Raul Alarcón (Efapel-Glassdrive)
Tomás Swift-Metcalfe (Carmim-Prio-Tavira)
1st intermediate sprint:
Km 9,3: Meta volante em Estói:
1.º Raul Alarcón (Efapel-Glassdrive)
2.º Niels Wytinck (An Post Sean Kelly Team)
3. .º Tomás Swift-Metcalfe (Carmim-Prio-Tavira)
2nd intermediate sprint:
km 27,8: Meta volante em Loulé:
1.º Raul Alarcón (Efapel-Glassdrive)
2.º Niels Wytinck (An Post Sean Kelly Team)
3. .º Tomás Swift-Metcalfe (Carmim-Prio-Tavira)
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Who are these people?
majope - February 16, 2012
just adding them to my team
Uphill - February 16, 2012
I wondered about the á in Tomás
http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/01/05/tomas-swift-metcalfe-interview/ Portoguese-Irish-English
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
Interesting--thanks.
majope - February 16, 2012
hehe, definitely no VDS material
broerie - February 16, 2012
Very interesting, but he has the wrong nickname.
Apparently it’s “Tarzan”, but the photos make it clear it should be “Tintin”. The resemblance is amazing.
GreylockGrinder - February 16, 2012
after 28km, gap is 5.40
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
OT: Mars candy co. is going to resize all their products so that they don't sell anything over 250 calories.
Betting they don’t resize their prices to match…
majope - February 16, 2012
have they factored in the deep frying? (I'm still trying to work out how that's possible.)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Freeze them, dip them in batter, and fry 'em up.
majope - February 16, 2012
It still boggles my mind...
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I'm such a hypocrite...second race in a live-ish thread. Greipel back in leader's jersey.
1st place KITTEL Marcel (PRO)
2nd place GREIPEL André (LTB)
3rd place BOUHANNI Nacer (FDJ)
4th place FARRAR Tyler (GRM)
5th place SAGAN Peter (LIQ)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Sagan is showing Green Jersey possibilities imo.
Hanging in there with the best sprinters, but can take more difficult wins. Could be an interesting battle.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Good call.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Sagan in a green jersey
that would be odd
broerie - February 16, 2012
proper green
not sissy green.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
You call Liqui green - sissy green?
Picture Szmud’s armada! Still think it is sissy green?
holmovka - February 16, 2012
Szmud is colour blind.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
km48, gap 4.53
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
morning rush at work is almost over...
what is going on here?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
tranquilo
broerie - February 16, 2012
Post prandial snooze mode
Albertina - February 16, 2012
que?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
After lunch sleepiness
Albertina - February 16, 2012
aahhhh... new word for me...!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
coffee time? a snack for me... fueling up for later...
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
I'm hydrating (ie drinking lots of water),
I’ve got 1 hour to ride the rollers this evening, but I have no idea what I’m going to do.
I did a hard1h (FTP) training yesterday, maybe some intervals tonight and an easy ride tomorrow.
Anyone got tips for intervals?
broerie - February 16, 2012
=Something not too hard, since it's still early in the year
so far I’ve done longer intervals (5-8 minutes) but I need some variation.
broerie - February 16, 2012
nvm, if it stays dry I might do a 20 minute test outside
broerie - February 16, 2012
don't do'em
that’s all I got
Jens - February 16, 2012
I rode on the turbo with the Garmin for the first time last night
Makes things far more fun, though I’m sure the novelty will wear off pretty soon…
Albertina - February 16, 2012
I find it helps to make time go by faster
you simply have more stuff to focus on (cadence, Hr,…)
broerie - February 16, 2012
I don't yet possess a heart rate monitor. That might be the next investment.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
30 dollars or so in amazon.com
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Kids! Now days! Heart monitor! Garmin!
I rode to school, every day, 10 km in heavy snow uphill, both ways! Barefoot! :)
holmovka - February 16, 2012
You need more Rapha gear then
Jens - February 16, 2012
Uphill both ways? Amazing.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
You got it! hehe!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
He was loucky!
We used to dream of riding in the snow
Jens - February 16, 2012
Kicksled is the solution to everything
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicksled
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
Standing barefoot on one must be a bitch though
Jens - February 16, 2012
On the rims! No pneumatic tires for the hardmen!!!
2thvet - February 16, 2012
where is muk?
he is the rollers geek…. or Jim from strava.
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Australians aren't allowed to be geeks. It's in the constitution.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
oh i think today is when he commutes to work...
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
"Extensive" intervals
meaning more work than rest. For example, 2x (5x 2’ work, 1’ rest), 8’ rest. Level “FTP+” but not full-on max. Goed voor tempohardheid.
tedvdw - February 16, 2012
If I'm motivated/rested enough next week, I'll give these a try
But I’m going to try a 20 minute test tonight. It will be the first one this year and it will be interesting to see where I’m at.
broerie - February 16, 2012
What does that involve?
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Strategically posted neighbor’s dogs!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
rec
broerie - February 16, 2012
It's a powerd based test to measure your functional treshold power (FTP)
It’s a good way to track your progression during the season (if you have a powermeter).
broerie - February 16, 2012
Ah ok, so that's what FTP stands for :)
I don’t have a powermeter either!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
If weather holds this way till 3pm i will repeat sundays ride...
it was nice. and want to beat a time in a segment. or try
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
no wait it was saturday...
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
this one...
http://app.strava.com/rides/4067508
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Get that KOM, pablo!
broerie - February 16, 2012
riding the UFO today n o way I can get it..!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
and it has the CX tires now...! forget about it..!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Right, but a good recon is important if you want to attack the KOM in the future.
broerie - February 16, 2012
I will get it... In the spring
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
km90, 3.15. lotto drives the peloton. 37.2km/hr avg for the first two hours.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Training race
broerie - February 16, 2012
Trying seriously to muster up a damn to give about this race
Maybe viddy will help
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Oldest nephew is here
I now know everything about dinosaurs. And ninjas. Dinosaur-ninjas – or if it was ninja-dinosaurs – are particular dangerous.
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
what you just said remind me of my son cartoons
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
anyone is awake here?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
coffee break for me...
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Live video!! Live video!!
Of some dude walking back and forth at the finish…
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
He looks lonely
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
this means?
break away won?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Dunnu
but it reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode where that guy is the last human on Earth.
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
I can't believe I'm missing all this!
broerie - February 16, 2012
Oh Look!
He has someone to talk to now. Wonder what they are saying?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
so what are we doing after this is done?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Watching bike racing is awesome.
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Bloody hell. RTP is geoblocked for me today
Jens - February 16, 2012
same here... sucks..!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
th official site works for me here in NC
but it is still just like a Twilight Zone episode. Maybe you should move to the states?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
ditto. and via witopia all i get is a spinning wheel
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
and the womens tennis could kill off the Eurosport stream.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Grrrrrrbah
Albertina - February 16, 2012
It's over already?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
no. there's still about an hour and a half to go.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
But no viddy?
I opened up one of the streams, and it’s tennis?!?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
eurosport has tennis coverage. the portuguese channel is not cooperating today.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
That's Eurosport I assume? Their schedules can be eccentric. Cycling will probably come when the tennis ends.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
ES not scheduled until 16:45 (in 4 mins) anyway
RTP was the one starting 16:30
Jens - February 16, 2012
eurosport only had the last 30 mins or so yesterday
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Ah ok
Albertina - February 16, 2012
The tennis match is only in the second set
It doesn’t seem like they’re just going to cut away from it, so where is working viddy?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
rtp2
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
That means nothing to me
Got a link?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Oh I see it below
Thanks
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
km130, the peloton behind the lone breakaway of swift-metcalfe by 3 mins
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Hi, folks. Can someone here in the US please post a direct link to the RTP feed?
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
You mean the one that's been geoblocked?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Oh, is it? Sorry, I just got here............
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
no it's not. they just didn't release the broadcast until now. they don't stream everything live.
http://www.rtp.pt/play/?tv=2
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
The one listed above works for me, in Massachusetts.
Helicopter shots of a peloton of gorgeous roads in forested hills, plus beautiful beaches, two guys speaking Portuguese.
GreylockGrinder - February 16, 2012
and RTP2 is live. no georestriction
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
I can't get in .
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
Nor me.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
My Spanish gives me enough Portuguese to tell me that this video is not available
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Try this
http://sports-livez.com/channel/ch-9.php
hansgruber - February 16, 2012
That one works!
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
i have a big fat ad right across the screen that won't go away.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
sometimes you have to click on the X to close it. tho usually it goes away after a time.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
I did that frequently, then noticed red writing above that allowed me to close it.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Oh that thing
Yeah, sort of annoying, but you can make it go away easy enough
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
I just have the hahasport thing
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Works for me! Thank you, and thank you to ALL of you for your help!
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
And moral support :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
okay then. stream going. machine capturing the video. anyone else for spicy chicken vegetable soup?
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-2/16/74/v-367510.html
This works for me.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Thanks--that one is clearer than the first one I tried.
majope - February 16, 2012
Ugh, Portuguese
If I really concentrate, I can probably follow this commentary
But I don’t feel like concentrating :p
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
http://www.rtp.pt/multimediahtml/emissaotv/rtp2
Grzdylu - February 16, 2012
Thank you!
Now I can see more than some bored dude walking back and forth!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Latern Rouge!
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
man…. it’d help if I could type AND not be last…
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
still our multinational in the lead?
Uphill - February 16, 2012
yes
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
he should also be kom now
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
By about 10 seconds, looks like
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
So sprinty sprint finale?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
more an uphill drag
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Not much of a percentage
Normal sprint I think
Jens - February 16, 2012
ES Live
FCV - February 16, 2012
amazing
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Awesome
The Portuguese commentary was pissing me off. I was understanding just enough of it to be piqued without understanding all of it.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Did you know that Channel 10 is in English?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
i'll stick with rpt. i might not be able to understand the language, but i don't have to put up with commercials either.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
I didn't realise there were any...
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Maybe it's different for you
But the ES stream is much higher video quality for me. I can actually read the names on the onscreen graphics.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
So here is a question:
Can we as a community influence the amount of races that are broadcast free on the web?
I love that more and more races are broadcast free and legally.
How does that gain momentum?
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
Not sure but in the past, posting links was a good way for them to get pulled
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Right
so that’s the opposite.
I just wonder if watching RTP2 gives them higher viewership. Higher viewership means better web ratings? (Although there seems to be no advertising) Better web ratings means that we’ll see it expand next year?
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
RTP, which I think is partly a public broadcaster could be interested in
showing Algarve as a tourist destination. Free stream could be used for that.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
It's true. Good Point.
I’ve toured the Algarve and it’s beautiful.
And watching this stream yesterday was making me think about that. So it does, likely, have a positive effect on that.
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
One of the best holidays I had as a kid
was in Praiha da Rocha which is almost on the route today
Jens - February 16, 2012
Though it's possible that
Eurosport has bought the broadcast rights for the European countries, except for Portugal, and can claim it’s exclusive rights.
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
true, but I do think Eurosport gets it for free or almost free.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Is this, strictly speaking, legal?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
How do you mean?
If we watch RTP2 and it’s not geo-restricted, it is fine.
The others…..
but that’s what I’m curious about today.
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
If RTP leave their stream open then why not?
Via Sportzlives etc, not so much.
RCS are putting many of their races free on GazzettaTV, seems a deliberate move on their part.
Jens - February 16, 2012
Gotcha
I was thinking about the ES stream when I made my previous post.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Those Gazzetta feeds are usually incredibly clear, too. Love them.
majope - February 16, 2012
Then I look forward to them :)
How much of Milan – San Remo can I expect to look forward to? Watching it on Universal Sports the last couple years…they only showed the last hour! The last hour of a near eight hour race! Total WTF. I’d love to see three, even four hours of that race.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
about 2-2.5 hours. and universal sports stream showed the same amount.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Better, then
Their TV only showed the last hour. It’s only been since I’ve known you fine folks that I even knew cycling livestreams were a thing that exists.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
i pretty much avoid universal sports on the tv. and i only use the streams for milano-sanremo and tirreno-adriatico. since those use some brits for commentary.
i can’t abide the american commentators.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Do you know off the top of your head what day MSR is this year?
I might have a race that morning.
majope - February 16, 2012
March 17
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
St Patrick's day...March 17th.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Bah, I have a concert that day!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Bah, I have my son's state championship quiz bowl meet that day.
It was also on MSR day last year, but I got out of it because it was on the same day as my favorite trail race. But no way I get a pass just to watch MSR.
majope - February 16, 2012
Last year I missed it cos I got two punctures and only had one tube.
Nothing like being stuck out in the country and having to walk to a tin pot little railway station to wait aaaages for a train to the nearest bike shop!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Ouch!
majope - February 16, 2012
I remember that!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I'm missing Flanders this year, which is really unfortunate
but I’ll be touring in Cuba, so that will be a fine tonic for the sorrow.
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
Last year they had most of the action
They were live before the Manie certainly where the action was
Jens - February 16, 2012
and last year tdp put up their vuelta coverage video-on-demand without restrictions. learning from rcs it seems.
(don’t hold your breath for aso tho)
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
depends which you're watching. rtp2 is because it's the direct feed from the country broadcaster. eurosport via other than the eurosport player, not so much.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Mhm
I get the point now.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
So is it in our interest, as a non-domestic audience to watch the country feed?
and could that create a reinforcing loop?
Other races that are similar are (have been)
Vuelta Pais Vasco
Vuelta a Burgos
Gazzetta TV (Milan San Remo, Il Lombardia, Giro)
etc. etc.
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
i almost always watch the host country feed
well, unless sporza has it.
rai is nongeorestricted during the giro.
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
ping, btw
Jens - February 16, 2012
Yeah, me too.
If the host country feed is there, I choose it.
It there is no feed at all, I find one.
It’d be great if we could somehow leverage our PC viewership volume into more legal and free feeds.
It seems to be a rapidly growing phenomenon, and I hope it continues across the sport. (as well as other sports/events/programs)
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
Must be better than watching via pirates
Or, for those of us that have ES, good to boost those numbers too.
Jens - February 16, 2012
I have ES Player but my office computer can't deal with it! So annoying.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
ES player sucks
I have it but the pirate streams work better
Jens - February 16, 2012
It's smooth as silk at home
Albertina - February 16, 2012
my video die... help..!!!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Here you
GO
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
thanks..!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
How far to go?
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
not sure
but the break has 1:40
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Nutty, they keep showing the gap but not the distance to go
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
I see that. Odd.
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
I just tweeted Carlton Kirby asking them to give us the KM togo.
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
Well done!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
They just said 35km
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
I missed it! was too busy tweeting. lol.
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
Ohhh
Some guys went on the wrong side coming out of the roundabout and rode toward oncoming traffic!
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
saw that
a little late cx action to get back on course!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
35 k to go gap at 1:40ish
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
That's Dan Lloyd commentating? Nice voice.
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
+1
majope - February 16, 2012
Is he riding anywhere this year?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
I don't think so
holmovka - February 16, 2012
Pity
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
British team
Can’t remember the name. Rapha Condor perhaps?
Jens - February 16, 2012
Team IG - Sigma Sport
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
Yoah. And not being paid for it.
Albertina - February 16, 2012
It's like he's a woman or something
Jens - February 16, 2012
Hmm. Not much of a gig, anyway.
Hopefully it gets him a real ride next season, if not sooner.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
I thought that local team on the front was Garmin-Barracuda
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
Nahh
Garmin’s jerseys this year are predominantly white
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Same...but something wasn't right...the green bikes perhaps?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
The Garmen also have solid blue helmets. Saxo have two stripes on their blue helmets.
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
Sky was somewhere in my thinking because they had the green during the TdF last year.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I wasn't really paying attention. it was the green bartape that shook me from my apathy.
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
I thought it was Sky
holmovka - February 16, 2012
That was the team that came to mind for me
But only “looks like Sky,” not “isn’t that Sky” :p
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
+1
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Gap down to 1:31 30ish k to go
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
30 km to go
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
who are faves to win today?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Breschel
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Slight uphill sprint
They said EBH is unwell. Who else do we have?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
How could you forget Kloden? Actually, it's within Machado's capabilities.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I didn't "forget" anybody
I only just now looked at the start list. “Who else do we have?” was a legitimate question. Two possibilities jumped out at me:
77 VAN AVERMAET Greg
84 HAUSSLER Heinrich
But, what do I know? :p
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
When sprinting and Kloden are in the same sentence, you need to understand that it's a joke.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Where were they in the same sentence, before this post to which I am directly replying? ;\
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
You said sprint, I replied Kloden...your pedantry is ingenuous.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
But you're right, that's a joke that flies way over my head
No bigger buzzkill than explaining a joke, so I won’t ask you to, but suffice it to say I don’t get it.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Kloden beat SamSan in a sprint last year. Caused great hilarity, even from fans like me.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Mmmk
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Kloden is famous for a sprint much like a clay pot.
Thus the irony:-)
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
and beat Sanchez once last year.
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Yeah I get *that*
But jokes are funny, right? So…I don’t really see why it’s funny. Is it funny to pick Cavendish to win on Alpe d’Huez? It’s absurd, but…funny?
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
If Cav won on the Alpe, that would indeed be funny!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Fainting couches would be in huge demand...and blood tests.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Not all jokes are funny.
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
Klöden is a perfect example
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
Fortunately, we don't all have the same sense of humour.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I bet you, Klody will laugh himself if you call him a sprinter.
holmovka - February 16, 2012
I agree :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
So I'm the oddball?
That…works for me :)
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
It is funny!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
Kloden isn't going to win a sprint but he is Seahorse's favorite so she mentions him on occasion
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
LOL
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Hincapie might win the sprint
Wait, is he even at the race?
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
i doubt it, but I'm behind him all the way...unless Kloden is head to head.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
LOL
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
The grey jersey deserves respect!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
BMC at Algarve: No Hinc
71 BOOKWALTER Brent United States
72 BURGHARDT Marcus Germany
73 CUMMINGS Steven United Kingdom
74 MOINARD Amaël France
75 MORABITO Steve Switzerland
76 TSCHOPP Johann Switzerland
77 VAN AVERMAET Greg Belgium
78 VAN GARDEREN Tejay United States
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
Burghardt is a dish :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Oh my yes
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
(Also Kloden's training buddy in Switzerland)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
GVA
Albertina - February 16, 2012
GHH or Koldo F. for Garmin, Ciolek for OPQS, Bakelandts for RST...
Bol for Rabo.
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
Jetse!
majope - February 16, 2012
I think Nancy may cause Twitter to explode if he wins
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Yey!!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
he's on my team. Best name in the peloton.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Better than Tosh Van der Sande?
majope - February 16, 2012
Tosh works better for me.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Tosh is good but for me Jetse wins.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Stop the objectification of men!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
And Kitten Juggling!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
how did I do that twice?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
It's happening a lot. You can see two, but we can't.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
wierd. It's actually hilighted like it came from someone other than me
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
I know. it's been happening to me a lot.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
and it keeps coming back as unmarked. Hmmmmm
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
^"marked"
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Just refresh.
majope - February 16, 2012
Names not bodies here...this is very PC :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
+1
holmovka - February 16, 2012
And on my team also!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
Actually, it was something you wrote that made me pick him.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I did? Hmm...
holmovka - February 16, 2012
About him being a member of PdC and we should support him. Makes sense to me.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Erm...
will they put up his real salary next year if he’s picked for 500 FDS teams?
straw dog - February 16, 2012
Well I hope so.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Mine as well...
great! I’m going to have all the same riders as everyone else….again!
Jetse Bol – 1 point, 500 selections
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
He's a Pdc member. If we can't support him, who can we support ? :)
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Right! And he is such a good guy, also!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
That's true....
but we also want to win! (Yeah right…. I’d like to just finish in the top 500)…
maybe I should stop picking Freire and Boonen every… single…. year…
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
Winning would be nice, but my only aspiration is not to be in the bottom 100.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Sky looks awful interested--who do they have for sprints?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
EBH
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Sick
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I see.
Perhaps he can only make the podium then.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Yeah, remembered that as soon as I posted.....
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Sky don't wish to discuss sprints today.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Except for the part where they were doing Lotto's work for 20 k :-)
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Having a little whinge are they?
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
I think they realized they were closing too fast
Down to 1 min now
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Required - black and yellow and white kit for the break today.
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
One is more flouro (more awful), than the other.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
20 km to go
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
European record for street signs in that roundabout
Jens - February 16, 2012
suggestions....
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
And
there are lots of roundabouts, aren’t there?
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
WTF!
What was that truck doing on teh course?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
driving
Open road. Took the chance.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Did they really never find/punish the driver who clipped Flecha and Hoogerland?
That’s messed up.
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Pretty countryside.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Sorry Mr. commentator
But Rui Costa =/= JJ Rojas
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Gruppo compatto
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Catchy catcherton
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Counter-move from Thomas De Gendt
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Joined by Christophe Riblon
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
kept on a short leash
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Yep. They're not going too far
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
De Ghent immediatly attacks!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
I thought that was Hoogerlands job?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
"Mind if I butt in?"
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
EBH is sick,
sick of not winning!
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
I keep telling him, "Hold it for the FSA DS season."
majope - February 16, 2012
you pick him?
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Always.
majope - February 16, 2012
you like to gamble...!
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
how could she, he costs a gazillion fantasy points.
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
He IS the White Unicorn.
That is all.
majope - February 16, 2012
he will take lots of
wind infront of Cav as the Missile goes for the line on his own.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Wigans sighting
(since we’re doing Kloden sprints, thought we should get all the unfunny jokes out of the way)
straw dog - February 16, 2012
All Klöden jokes are funny.
(Disclaimer: statement of personal opinon.)
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
Wiggins looks very smart in his NatChamp jersey
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
Bakelants with a mechanical
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
or Bacalhau
as they call him in Portugal
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
(That's it, I'm not going to waste my brilliant Portuguese food jokes on you lot again)
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
just couldn't connect the dots.
Uphill - February 16, 2012
There is in every madman a misunderstood genius
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
hatt.
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
Hatt!
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
heh
I thought that was funny
broerie - February 16, 2012
Bakelandts mechanical
Grzdylu - February 16, 2012
12 km to go
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
I have a meeting in 4 min. Tell them not to finish w/o me!
ZoeRochelle - February 16, 2012
Surely they'll wait?
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
They should do TV timeouts like in US sports
All just stop at the side of the road for a few minutes while the ads run, then get going again.
straw dog - February 16, 2012
BMC massing on the front
Setting up for Van Avermaet, surely
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
7 km to go
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
7km to go
Uphill - February 16, 2012
Neat-looking bridge
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Nice camera shot through the bridge....
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
indeed
Uphill - February 16, 2012
That's an elegant piece of engineering.
straw dog - February 16, 2012
De Gendt & Riblon caught
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Good, now forget them.
These are <<>> the riders you are looking for.
straw dog - February 16, 2012
Hello!
I made it! and I have a live feed!Life is GOOD!
Dustbunny8 - February 16, 2012
Hello!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Bon dia!
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
Scary road furniture
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Minor miracle that no one crashed there
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
NOW it's gettin' strung out
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Layopard on the front
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
I think Quickstep
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
nevermind...OPL
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Last km
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
EBH alone
Jens - February 16, 2012
thought he was sick
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Just wait until he's healthy.
majope - February 16, 2012
Scary ;\
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Le jinx is in.
Elbow.
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
Eddy Boss!
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Sick.
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
extra afterburner?
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
He started his sprint quite early.
Nice “sustained” effort. Just up his alley, the long sprint is.
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
That wasn't a flatulence joke, was it?
Holdenmate - February 16, 2012
farting is not funny.
Unless it me doing it right in my dogs face
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
I would never
TheFigurehead - February 16, 2012
that little bastard clears rooms like you read about. He deserves it.
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Eddy!
majope - February 16, 2012
Boss Hog!!!
Grzdylu - February 16, 2012
EBH!
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
sick?
nah
civetta - February 16, 2012
sandbagging..
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
Eddy!
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
The Sky stripe is fatter this year.
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
You're right, good eye.
Ruthann - February 16, 2012
That was fun kids.
Many more to come!
Now I have to go to the dentist:-(
tshawytcha - February 16, 2012
tomorrow for me... last time for a while i hope..!
I am done at work… I am going home yacky weather in NJ….
pablo777 - February 16, 2012
Highlight of last year
Tour was the vid of those announcers celebrating his victory! Never forget it!
Dustbunny8 - February 16, 2012
For goodness sake, I got stuck on the phone for ever and ever with someone who kept repeating himself and didn't make any sense
and totally missed the finish!
Albertina - February 16, 2012
Vacansoleil 2nd
Breschel 3rd i think
Ciolek 4th?
Grzdylu - February 16, 2012
Breshel 4th
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
Ciolek 3rd!
He’s going to earn me so many 3rd-5th place points this year it won’t be funny.
majope - February 16, 2012
Boeckmans 2nd
Breschel 4th
…good thing I ifred both those losers off my team the day before submitting
LawrenceS - February 16, 2012
Help!
Not sure what happened there.My post was there then half gone!
Dustbunny8 - February 16, 2012
There are gremlins around today.
Seahorse - February 16, 2012
just refresh
umwolverine - February 16, 2012
Only nine riders tied on the same time at the front of the race
Edvald Boasson Hagen
Kris Boeckmans
Gerald Ciolek
Matti Breschel
Francesco Lasca
Koldo Fernandez
Nikolas Maes
Pieter Vanspeybrouck
Andre Cardoso
Next rider +1" Some splits toward the end
Aly Edge - February 16, 2012
Nice to see Koldo is back! And Ciolek sprinted for 4 place instead of his usual 6 or 7!
holmovka - February 16, 2012
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