Mark Cavendish of HTC-Highroad won the final sprint of this year's Tour de France on the the Champs Elysées for his third straight victory on the famous boulevard. Mark Renshaw, who perfectly led out Cavendish, had time to celebrate from behind as Cavendish crossed the line. Edvald Boasson Hagen of Team Sky finished second, while André Greipel of Omega Pharma Lotto crossed the line third.
Results
Stage Results
- Mark Cavendish (HTC-Highroad)
- Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Sky)
- André Greipel (Omega Pharma Lotto)
- Tyler Farrar (Garmin-Cervélo)
- Fabian Cancellara (Leopard Trek)
Final General Classification
- Cadel Evans (BMC Racing Team)
- Andy Schleck (Leopard Trek) 1:34
- Fränk Schleck (Leopard Trek) 2:30
- Thomas Voeckler (Europcar) 3:20
- Alberto Contador (Saxo Bank) 3:57
- Samuel Sánchez (Euskaltel Euskadi) 4:55
- Damiano Cunego (Lampre-ISD) 6:05
- Ivan Basso (Liquigas-Cannondale) 7:23
- Tom Danielson (Garmin-Cervélo) 8:15
- Jean-Christophe Péraud (AG2R) 10:11
On the final circuits, a break went up the road and Jérémy Roy of Français des Jeux celebrated his Super-Combatif prize with one last escape. But the sprinters' teams never gave them much space to ride and they never offered much threat to the traditional sprint on the Champs Elysées.
In the final kilometers, Lars Bak of HTC-Highroad attacked in an effort to force the other sprinters' teams to work. Behind, the chase took some time to organize, but soon Omega Pharma Lotto went to the front for their sprinter André Greipel, while Garmin-Cervélo slotted in behind them for Tyler Farrar.
With 1.5 kilometers to go, Belgian National Champion Philippe Gilbert led the field, then HTC-Highroad came out of hiding and set up Mark Cavendish perfectly for the finish. Sunday marked the twentieth career Tour de France stage victory for Cavendish, who also won the first Green Jersey of his career.
Cadel Evans of BMC Racing Team celebrated his first ever Tour de France victory. He pulled on the Yellow Jersey after the final time trial in Grenoble, but he won the Tour by chasing every possible advantage in the opening stages and with a doggedly determined defense in the high mountains. Evans won by 1:36 ahead of Andy Schleck of Leopard Trek. For the first time in the history of the Tour de France, two brothers will stand on the final podium. Fränk Schleck finished third.

This Tour pitted two very different riders against one another. For the first two weeks, Andy Schleck waited, while Evans played the opportunist. Evans picked up valuable time on the Mûr de Bretagne, where he won the stage and during the early uphill finishes of the race. Schleck sat back. Through the Pyrénées, the favorites stalemated and pulled taut the plot line. No one yet held the upper hand, it remained anyone's race to win.
Schleck staked his entire Tour de France on the Alps, and specifically on a massive attack on the road to the col du Galibier. It very nearly worked. When Schleck attacked on the col de l'Izoard, none could answer, and he soon held the Yellow Jersey on the road. As he approached the final climb, Schleck had nearly four minutes over the other favorites. It looked like his Tour to lose.
Like a well-crafted novel, every Tour de France has its pivot, that point at which the narrative turns. In this Tour de France, the climb up the col du Galibier providing the turning point. With Schleck running out the clock, Evans went to the front and began a long chase. Several riders sat on his wheel, but they could offer little help. If he wanted to win the Tour, Evans had to do this one himself.
Andy Schleck rarely shows the effects of his efforts. He rides so smooth, so controlled even in the highest mountains. But in the final kilometers of the Galibier, his face showed his fatigue and his legs turned to rubber. From the commissaires car, Eddy Merckx shouted encouragement, while behind, lower on the mountain, Evans continued his inexorable chase. And the clock ticked down.
In the group with Evans sat the improbable Thomas Voeckler on the ride of his life. Voeckler could not do much to help Evans, but he hoped to defend his Yellow Jersey for just one more day. In the end he did, as Evans successfully kept Schleck from running out the clock and winning the Tour de France right then and there.
The following stage in the Alps, the race to the storied Alpe d'Huez, followed a similar pattern. Schleck joined an early attack by Alberto Contador on the col du Télégraphe, while behind, Evans ground out kilometer after kilometer in pursuit. This time, Evans had help from his team, notably the U.S. rider Brent Bookwalter riding his first Tour de France. The favorites reached the final climb together, and remained locked together through the twenty-one switchbacks to the summit of the Alpe d'Huez.
With the mountains at an end, the advantage switched to Evans, who has a history of big rides against the watch, including a Tour de France stage victory. But it was never a sure thing after the hard racing of the previous stages. Had Evans cooked himself in the long pursuit efforts through the mountains? Did Schleck have the better form?
The clock answers all questions. Just as in the Tour de France there is a turning point, in every time trial, there is a moment when the time gap teeters in the balance, like it could tilt in the direction of either rider. That moment came early in Grenoble and didn't last long. After racing from the back through the mountains, Evans now had the upper hand. Evans stripped the Yellow Jersey off Andy Schleck and put an end to his hopes of winning this year's Tour. Schleck has now placed second at the Tour on three occasions.
There's always more to the Tour de France than the Yellow Jersey battle, and this year, the long run of Thomas Voeckler in the Yellow Jersey became the race's beating heart. Voeckler took the jersey after a long breakaway in the Massif Centrale and against all expectations held it until the final mountain finish on the Alpe d'Huez. It was a gutsy performance from a rider known for making the most of his talents and snatching victories where he can.
Voeckler's run in Yellow lasted long enough to raise his hopes, but the road is cruel. On the Tour's second ascent of the col du Galibier, Voeckler sat suspended in no-man's land between a breakaway powered by Andy Schleck and Alberto Contador and the chase driven by Evans and his BMC team. Voeckler believed the bike race was going up the road without him, only to find that he'd in fact ridden himself into the ground for nothing.
On the Alpe d'Huez he rode out of his mind yet again, but it wasn't enough. Voeckler never in his career expected to stand on the podium in Paris, but this Tour raised his hopes. His was an Icarus story, flying high into the clouds, before being dashed precipitously back down to earth.
This Tour has raised talk of a French revival as the first French rider, Pierre Rolland, since Bernard Hinault won on the Alpe d'Huez. Rolland also won the White Jersey of best young rider, while Jean-Christophe Péraud finished tenth overall. Two riders in the top ten overall, a stage victory in the high mountains, and the White Jersey: It was a very good Tour for the French teams and riders.
"Today the racers took back the Tour de France," wrote Edward Pickering of CycleSport after the dramatic finish on the Alpe d'Huez. This Tour was cycling with a human face, as the riders showed their fatigue in a way we haven't seen in years. On Friday, the riders rode through the tunnel at the summit of the col du Galibier, passing from the bright afternoon light into the darkness and back again. Perhaps now cycling has finally exited its own dark tunnel and raced into the light. Long may it remain there.
0 recs | 355 comments
first!
congrats Cadel but forza Cunego :-)
ceccovb - July 24, 2011
lovely ride from Cunego!
Jen See - July 24, 2011
Best Tour I've ever seen
Made more personally satisfying by having the man I wanted to win WIN.
sminer - July 24, 2011
I think so too
I think this is the best Tour I’ve watched in real time, really. I liked the one where Sastre won it on the Alpe d’Huez. That was cool. But this had more drama, more drawn out tension.
Jen See - July 24, 2011
That is probably a short list of "real time" TdF views ...
… but I get your point. hahaha
Seriously, this edition of leTour reminded me of those of the 80s. Time has changed things, but this was fun and sorta retro in feeling.
Ice <~~~~~retro
Ice Nine - July 24, 2011
I agree with you
but for me second after Pantani 1998 :-)
ceccovb - July 24, 2011
+1
Yeah, I wanted Cadel to win WIN too
Willj - July 24, 2011
Yes
Along with 2003
Forstoppelse - July 24, 2011
yep :-)
have to agree!
nicknorco - July 24, 2011
Way to go, Cadel!
ELVISGOAT - July 24, 2011
c'mon boy
get on the wheel!
;-)
nicknorco - July 24, 2011
+1
ELVISGOAT - July 24, 2011
what the heck
was Cancellara doing taking 5th? Leading out for Frank?
specq - July 24, 2011
He's thinking ahead, working on his sprint.
Can’t have Nuyens taking what’s rightfully his away from him again.
sminer - July 24, 2011
I'd advise him to sprint on the drops next time, though
Douglas Ansel - July 24, 2011
He didn't want to embarass the sprinters by winning today.
sminer - July 24, 2011
Congrats Cadel!
One of the most exciting Tours I’ve watched in years. Congratulations to all the jersey winners and also to Gilbert, Thor, Rojas, Voeckler (of course Voeckler!), Johnny Hoogerland (for sheer guts), EBH and all the other riders who made it a great sporting spectacle!
Retancourt - July 24, 2011
well said
numerous great rides including the guys you mentioned. i’ll add Roy and Rolland to the mix!
nicknorco - July 24, 2011
Agreed, especially this part
broerie - July 24, 2011
Tour of the Century
so far
OnTheRivet - July 24, 2011
The millennium even!
broerie - July 24, 2011
For eons!
DriftNasty - July 25, 2011
Bravo Cadel!
Great win, great drama (but I’m glad the ITT wasn’t TOO close, I would have expired)… I love that he won, but I especially love the way the way he did it, showcasing the whole array of skills that a GC rider should have. Brilliant!
tgartner - July 24, 2011
to me this was the one to win
of all his efforts so far. what a Tour! and i agree, the way he won it, playing to all his GC strengths, made it all the more thrilling.
nicknorco - July 24, 2011
Congrats Evans.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Great Tour, great winner
looking forward to my homer race now!!
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Ahem...*home
but both work…
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Are you from Poland?
Jens - July 24, 2011
Aren't we all?
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Good: Cadel
Pretty good race, though strange that no one was able to make a move on a final climb. Both Andy and Contador had to go early to gain any time.
siempre_riquelme - July 24, 2011
Bad: Sanchez, Schleck TT
Very angry at Sammy Sanchez for hitching his wagons to Contador. As if he needs any help. Just join his team already.
At least Rolland just used Sanchez to get up to Contador, then blew by him.
And the Schlecks have to do a lot of work on TTs. But we say that every year and nothing changes. What gives?
siempre_riquelme - July 24, 2011
Is it August yet?
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Please keep your excitement of the Eneco Tour to a proper level
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
So, more cowbell?
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
That is sooooo TdS
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
More beer and weed?
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Please save the weed for the Colorado Tour
(I’m sure we’re fully legalizing soon…)
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
More cowbell is always the answer
Always.
Douglas Ansel - July 24, 2011
It's the only answer
Skunkface - July 24, 2011
I got a fever...
DriftNasty - July 25, 2011
+1
It can’t come soon enough, for the love of God.
Ed K - July 24, 2011
Agree with the Sanchez thing
agl - July 24, 2011
This.
po8crg - July 24, 2011
So what does the retro-futuroscope say?
Okay so if I fire up the retro-furturescope I see…
RETRO- Cadel
That Cadel richly deserves this victory…Goes without saying- Lovely to see this man with WC bands on, put on the final MJ, followed by the current WC winning the Team Classification (on top of two immense stages). A lot has been said for his intelligent riding, and while I have always called on him to attack more, he rode a tour perfectly suited to his abilities- Chapeau
FUTURO- Cadel
Hmmm…Not much more to add here. At 34 is likely to have 2-3 more years at the absolute pinnacle- A Lombardia would be lovely, suits him and close to a home race for him, and maybe a Vuelta would be nice- But the man deserves to rest on his plaudits- a bit
RETRO- AC
Alberto not only wore himself out in the Giro, he also ground his team down to a pulp. His mind does tend to wander a bit on early stages and did not have a team aware and fresh enough to keep him where he needed to be. Still for a man who emptied the tank in Italy, the man oozed class in this attacks on the Alpe, and his fantastic TT performance and gave an object lesson in a Champion’s resolve…
FUTURO-AC
Maybe go for the Tour-Vuelta double in 2012? (depending on whether he is CAS’d of course) This TdF disappointment is quite bitter for him and I think that the TdF is a non-negotiable for him next year. I also think that he will be motivated by the challenge of being only the second man to win all the GTs 2x (Hinault!), and will want his 4th MJ. Would love to see him time his Monster Giro Peak for Ardennes week next Spring and take on PhilGil in his natural terrain
RETRO- Andy
Andy bent his team and tried to bend the TdF to his own narrow family ambitions, and very narrowly missed his target. It is a testament to his potential and extraordinary climbing that such a blatantly one-dimensional rider with atrocious, appalling weaknesses in his TT, descending and bike handling skills was one day from the final MJ. His team was exceptional, their tactics questionable, and he showed how unprepared he is for the TdF MJ with a painful display in the final TT.
FUTURO-Andy
Must win a stage race. Must recognise that there is value to riding to win in more than just the TdF. Must learn that pro-level races do go downhill- sometimes in the rain. Must spend more time with the Maestro to improve TT- at least to max his potential. Must sort out how Franck fits in to an overall race strategy. Must just get better in so many areas to be a more complete rider. Must continue that Galibier mentality and be aggressive at EVERY Opportunity when the road goes up- with or without Franck- So many things to work on. Is a superb climber, but must decide if he would like to be a race winner, or not…3 2nd places is making him close to the next Poulidor
What do you guys see in the Retro-Futuro scope for your riders?
Was a pleasure as always participating in this community- Cheers!
DoctorNurse
Doctornurse - July 24, 2011
A top 20 in the TT
Does not scream appalling TTer when discussing Andy. I agree with the Cadel and Bertie viewpoints, but it just seems you’ve done a hatchet job on Andy, which seems mildly unfair given his stunning attack in the Alps.
snickwell - July 24, 2011
Yes. I think it DOES indicate appalling time-trialist
1. There were perhaps 10 riders really going for it in that last time trial; the others were going hard, but nowhere near all-out.
2. Andy Schleck knew that everything was riding on that performance.
3. He managed to finish less than 30 seconds ahead of Franck Schleck.
Thus, I conclude that, with everything riding on that one performance, Andy Schleck wasn’t even best of the riders who were essentially mailing their rides in.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
I call bullshit on the first point
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
how many would you think were really going all-out? 15? 20 maybe?
R Mc - July 24, 2011
There are very few riders who can end top 20 without giving everything
And there’s some outside top 20 who gave everything, but still couldn’t finish higher. So, 20 at least. Perhaps 25.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
so . . . of the riders who were trying their hardest, Andy Schleck, riding to win, still was bottom 3d
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Here's my thinking:
of the top ten, maybe 1 (Cunego) not riding all-in. 9
11-20: only riding all-in if stage win or jersey on line: Taaramae, few others: 5 to be generous?
Then, riders like Cancellara, Martin, and Velits going for tt stage win: 4-5.
Laslty, riders like Vandevelde riding to cement teams’ gc: 2-3??
So . . . yeah . . . 20-25.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Ben Swift
all-out because he missed his start time and got stressed about being hors delai
po8crg - July 24, 2011
And that's more than 10
Btw, Cunego was 5th on GC before the TT. If he wasn’t riding all-in I wonder why he rode the Tour to begin with.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
ok . .. 10 might be too selective, but the general point holds
which is to support the claim that Andy Schleck is a sub-par time triallist for a rider who hopes to win a Grand Tour.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Huge leap from "appalling" to "sub-par for a rider who hopes to win a GT""
dees ees en drama - July 24, 2011
True, but DN's point is that Andy needs to work on his TT, urgently...
…and his bike handling skills, especially on descents. He may have made the point hyperbolically, but the point isn’t wrong.
Ed K - July 24, 2011
Yes?
A few seconds from 14th, and a few from 20th. Which means he was around his best Tour TT ever, 17th in Monaco 2009 or 19th in Cholet 2008.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
Time is what matters.
He could have been in the top 5 but if his time is the same then what do you have.
flying dog - July 24, 2011
which means that he's right up there with Sastre and Simoni in the GC riders
who muddle through time trials ranking.
Had there been another ITT this year Andy Schleck would have been toast.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
If my aunt had wheels
She’s be a bus.
kcbottom9th - July 24, 2011
Had there been another TT Andy might have ridden differently
And both Sastre and Simoni managed to win Grand Tours.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
because both of them rode their asses off when it counted . . .
And . . . Andy Schleck rode his time trial efforts in the two stages before the last tt, as did Evans.
which comes back to the point that when it counted Andy Schleck could not produce.
And the “why” he couldn’t produce was as much a matter of fitness and power so much as it was of his manifest lack of skill on a time trial bike.
So . . . while “appalling” is probably the wrong word (Rasmussen retires that one, I’d guess), I don’t think anyone not-named Nygaard would presume to describe Andy Schleck’s time-trialling capacity as “acceptable.”
This is TWO Tours de France in a row that Andy Schleck has surrendered huge amounts of time in time trials . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
I thought he lost about 39 seconds last year
Hardly ‘huge’.
snickwell - July 24, 2011
prologue . . . lost 1:09
blamed it on wet weather and not taking risks . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
well . . . lost 42 seconds to Contador.in 8.9 k
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Acceptable IMO
He came in only 15 seconds behind Wiggins. I accept that neither of the Schlecks will ever set the TT world alight, but for winning GTs, what they have should be enough (if they fulfil their talent in the mountains)
snickwell - July 24, 2011
wiggins instead of going with the favorites
started earlier, with crappier wether
perezbike - July 24, 2011
And Andy didn't ride his ass off?
I’m pretty sure he did, until he realized it was over. Anyway, whether or not his time trialing ability is acceptable depends on the goal. He’s not going to win the Worlds TT anytime soon. For winning a GT like this years Tour I’d say it’s acceptable, he lost the Tour in the mountains not in Grenoble.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
we disagree then, which is ok
I’d respond by arguing that this year’s Giro-like Tour design was Andy Schleck’s bet chance to win a TdF precisely because it looked, on paper, to minimize the impact of his ‘acceptable’ time-trialling.
If the 2012 route includes a prologue and two ITTs perhaps that will be his motivation to take Ardennes week a whole lot more seriously . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
I also agree with this.
This year’s tour route couldn’t have been designed better to fit his skills (except of course for all the descents, ban them!). 4 summit finishes and only 42 km TT.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
This
Most years there’s more than one ITT, this was a huge opportunity for Andy
broerie - July 24, 2011
Why doesn't Andy have a proper go at the Giro?
It would seem that it should suit him better than the Tour, especially if Contador focusses on the Tour.
po8crg - July 24, 2011
although
who knows what the giro will look like next year
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
philH goes into cold sweat
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
True
But it is usually hillier than the Tour.
po8crg - July 24, 2011
Well they are likely going up "the Zoncolan South"
(or something similar) and back up Tre Crime. I have no fears it will once again be steep, except for the easy climb of Alpe d’ Huez…
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
giro sprint stage?
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Yes
a 3 starred stage on their scale
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
He has had a proper go at the Giro.
In his first pro year. Guess his finishing spot?
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Are you seriously faulting him for not winning the Giro at the age of 21?
majope - July 24, 2011
No.
I thought it was a great start of his carreer. Was making a joke.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
That was his most exciting race of his pro career in my very biased opinion
and the winner was more than likely doped to his gills
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Very much agreed.
He actually raced that Giro.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
More than likely?
That’s being kind
agl - July 24, 2011
Well, since Nibali didn't win
we don’t know if the winner had gills or not, right?
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Fair point
agl - July 25, 2011
(In his 3rd or 4th year as a pro)
Jens - July 24, 2011
3rd, I think.
My bad.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
He already did
I recall him doing quite welll…
But yes, he should ride the giro/vuelta double next year, forget about the Tour for a year. Likelihood of this being his schedule next year: 0%
agl - July 24, 2011
As I said
A GT like this years Tour, and I won’t rule out the possibility they have similar in the future and that he is able to make a bigger difference in the mountains.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
To be picky
He failed to win the tour in the mountains, then he lost it in the final TT.
muk - July 24, 2011
I agree with this assertion.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
He should have taken time in the Pyrenees.
Especially with a rest day looming.
DriftNasty - July 25, 2011
Frank rode exceptionally well the entire race
If he was not riding with/for his brother, he may have won this race with the kind of form he had. Blasphemous concept but…he should consider riding on a different team than Andy, or at least go to a GT to win for himself, because it’s obvious he can.
agl - July 24, 2011
Frank's an evern worse time trialist than Andy
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
only by 3 secs yesterday though?
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Worse is worse ;)
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Frank => Giro, Andy => TDF
With each acting as a super-domestique for the other.
muk - July 24, 2011
Frank => Vuelta
so as to not compromise the Tour.
dees ees en drama - July 24, 2011
Maybe
I was thinking that the climbs in the Giro might suit Frank better.
Either way, drop the notion of getting both on the podium, but still have one available to the other…
muk - July 24, 2011
climbs have descents
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Ahh and the Vuelta is a drier race..
Well at least to my dodgy recollection, so you may be right.
muk - July 24, 2011
The standard of Andy's measurement must match the scale of his ambition....
You wanna win the TdF (and put your brother on the podium as well, no less)- You gotta be better than that tight nervous TT performance yesterday.
With the finest TT artist possibly in history on his team, and access to some of the best TT minds in the business, Andy must do better to maximise his potential to move from appalling (for a GC contender) to acceptable.
While he may never be the climbing/TT talent that AC is to win the Jersey’s AC has, he MUST do better in the TT than he has done in this Tour.
Doctornurse - July 24, 2011
Yep.
Ed K - July 24, 2011
many thanks to podium cafe
y’all provided a great lens from which to view this great tour. congratulations to cadel evans, a deserving champion, he really paid his dues.
gravel road - July 24, 2011
Great: Europcar
Voeckler was the story of this TdF. And Rolland really deserved a stage. Wonder if he gets to be a #1 on some team next year.
With Voeckler, Rolland, and last year’s KoTM, if this team can stay together next year, who knows…
siempre_riquelme - July 24, 2011
Happy for Cadel!
it was during Cadel’s first Tour in 2005 that I really got interested in cycling beyond just Lance, in large part because of Cadel and his breakaway run to move into the top 10 overall. Was really hoping that 2007 was going to be his year (when my husband and I went to London and France to see the Tour), then over the last few years it seemed as if he’d never get a break with all the bad luck (crashes, illness, unhealthy team dynamics) – glad it finally happened for him.
guidemd - July 24, 2011
The best tour I've watched in the last 30 years.
Cadel is a very popular winner in this house. We’ve been fans since his Volvo-Cannondale days.
fancan - July 24, 2011
Really?
I didn’t watch too much in the mid 90s, but better than all of the Tours from ’85 thru ’89? That was a five year stretch I can not see ever being topped in terms of quality races.
js_francis - July 24, 2011
+1
There are races in the 80’s that will be tough to beat.
Uphill - July 24, 2011
That was a 5 (five) year stretch that can't be beat, I agree.
This was a 1 (one) year stretch that has never been beaten, I think.
fancan - July 24, 2011
Cavendish 2nd green?
“Sunday marked the twentieth career Tour de France stage victory for Cavendish, who also won the second Green Jersey of his career.”
I must have missed the first time he won the green jersey…
TC_ - July 24, 2011
reference to the Vuelta last year
papyrus - July 24, 2011
I was disappointed when they anoounced the route because of the lack of ITT Ks
Seems they had just enough.
Chief42 - July 24, 2011
The best thing with having seen such a good Tour
seem to be that I’m already looking forward to the next races. Even the Eneco Tour.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
2014 TOUR IN QATAR!!!!
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2014-tour-de-france-could-start-in-qatar
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Yeah, let's make the race retarded again!
Really, this year was far too good to keep up
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
I like Berlin asking for a start
seems some German interest is there again
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
That would be great
And just on the limits of doable, in terms of distance, imho
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Very doable
stage 2 in Germany and then go back to France
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Ah right
I was thinking they start with a prologue, but they didn’t this year either. Which would’ve meant 1-2-3 Germany, hit France by stage four.
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Or they could go to France via Belgium/Holland
You know, like in the old days.
Jens - July 24, 2011
You mean doping days? Oh so that's what you want I see!!!
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
They were doping in WWII?
Kewl, you learn something new everyday / at the illustrious Podium Cafe
BruceMcF - July 24, 2011
Most assuredly . . .
one of the reasons why amphetamines wound up being used/abused so heavily in the 50s has to be with their widespread military use during WW2.
For all of the stick that the late 60s gets for the hippy’s playing around with drugs, the 50s and early 60s were a totally-stoned cultural epoch . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Aha, they never include that part of ..
… the speed of the Blitzkrieg through the terrain where Germany got bogged down in WWI in any of the historical doco’s.
BruceMcF - July 24, 2011
Heh . . . heh . . . heh . . . you typed "speed"
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Yes
Hitler’s mustache was not all natural…
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
(trys to wiggle out of missing blatantly obvious WWII reference)
guess being in Germany has influenced me to forget it happened(even though I visited Buchenwald…facepalm).
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
i was always more conscious of it while there
all the cities that had been bombed flat – also was there for the fiftieth anniversary of the end of wwii – tons and tons of stuff on radio and telly and ceremonies and etc. I was actually really impressed with the honesty towards it – although i guess pretty hard to get around that one.
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Well I was at the holocaust memorial yesterday as well
so not being aware of it is a complete lie, I just missed the reference. Being in Leipzig i am more interested in the mix of modernity with the old eastern lifestyle, it’s quite fascinating(like seeing an old eastern bloc building next to a large Mcdonalds sign).
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
in this weeks Die Zeit
theres also informative stuff about another minor little mass holocaust in a different longitude that gets always comfortable, total invisibility
agostinho - July 25, 2011
I'm sure we'll try to stop 'em
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
then after a few days in france
they could go to Russia! How cool would that be?
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
This thread is over
tedvdw - July 24, 2011
Hey hey hey
I was talking about Schlieffen, not the little corporal.
Jens - July 24, 2011
I guess Berlin would make most sense for a prologue
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Yeah, big city usually means prologue time
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
+1
London was a big success right? More big city prologues!
kcbottom9th - July 24, 2011
+2
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Could go for Hamburg too.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
posted this below
west berlin hosted three “stages” in 1987: prologue, circuit race, team time trial
umwolverine - July 24, 2011
A Schlieffen Plan edition
Start in north-western Germany, go through the Ardennes in Belgium and into France. For a bonus, add a time trial (beat winter!) in Poland or Russia.
[sorry for the partial post above]
Kayle - July 25, 2011
1987, five stages and prologue, 3 in west berlin
berlin: prologue, circuit, TTT
karlsruhe to stuttgart
stuttgart to pforzheim
pforzheim to strasbourg, france
umwolverine - July 24, 2011
25th anniversary of tearing down the wall is 2014
The should welcome the idea.
flying dog - July 24, 2011
Sounds about as loopy as the Giro starting in DC
I’d prefer continent continuity
agl - July 24, 2011
what could have ever
po$$ibly mad€ th€m think of a $tart in Qatar?? Where i’d like to see them start is that african country where they are so crazy about cycling – i forget which – a former italian colony – someone posted something on it here once. Now that would be a cool start.
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Eritrea
Speaking of which, there’s a Europcar rumour regarding Daniel Teklehaimanot.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
cool, thanks
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Congrats Cadel!
Next year the Return of Spanish Dominance!
BTD - July 24, 2011
(Except for their crushing defeat to Germany in the 2012 EC)
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
And to Ukraine in the Eurovision
Jens - July 24, 2011
Jedward wuz robbed!
Katiek - July 25, 2011
Haahahaha
Phil, you crack me up!
Lou... - July 24, 2011
SamSan looks genuinely happy to have the dots.
dees ees en drama - July 24, 2011
That's because he has no sense of fashion
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
As far as consolation prizes go
it’s a good one
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
What's the time cut?
Boasson Hagen should be crossing the line in second place any minute now.
dees ees en drama - July 24, 2011
Anyone considered what Cav might turn to next?
Is he such a TdF stage-hunter that he ploughs on with winning 3-5 stages per year and doing (comparatively) little else, or does he pursue other goals? I’d like to see him win the Giro points jersey, but that might be tricky depending on the route. Other than that, I’m not sure what else he could turn his hand to particularly?
snickwell - July 24, 2011
There were pixels distributed after his M-SR win
about him wanting to start chasing monuments.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
with Cancellara and Gilbert still on the scene?
Mmm I predict slim pickings….
muk - July 24, 2011
Hard to see his climbing improving enough to make a dent in to many big classics (let alone monuments)
The lack of testnumbers that kept him out of the GB program may not have kept him from winning sprints but I feel like they do limit what races he can win, even with a changed focus. If I were him I’d focus on winning record numbers of GT stages and ride classics to help his teammates. I actually think he would love to do the latter.
Jens - July 24, 2011
like McEwen, then . . . which is not really a knock on McEwen . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Like all pocket turbo sprinters
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Yes, a Super-Robbie I suppose
If we do some collective thinking, what races do we think he can win realistically beyond the ones he has already?
- Gent Wevelgem and Paris-Tours spring to mind. Has he won Vattenfalls?
What else?
Jens - July 24, 2011
This is where I drew a blank
Obviously the Worlds this year must be a target, but next year….?
snickwell - July 24, 2011
Next two years are lost for him (Cauberg, Verona)
Jens - July 24, 2011
Gilbert double! ;)
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
What's the Olympic RR look like?
po8crg - July 24, 2011
Flatter than Andy's ass
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
So that might be a target for Cav next year?
po8crg - July 24, 2011
Well, it's designed with him and him only in mind
so he better damn win it
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Andy's ass?
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
A new romance for the ages
Poor Peta’ll just have to accept it.
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
they do climb box hill 9 times
Doesn’t look much but most of the climbing is done in two short ramps in the first 2 km with an average gradient of about 7%. Very narrow, rough broken up roads as well (unless they’ve re-surface). I think people could drop him if they wanted to.
After last time round a 40-50km run into center of london, so time to get back on. I guess its the flats course the Olympic regulations will allow though :)
Killbot - July 25, 2011
50k flat run in to the line
= flatflatflat
tgsgirl - July 25, 2011
He’s said it is.
majope - July 24, 2011
GW
I doubt it, with the new parcours. Too hilly.
Scheldeprijs, obviously.
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
He has Scheldeprijs already though
K-B-K might be within his limit too I think. With strong teamsupport.
Jens - July 24, 2011
Hence the obviously :)
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Omloop het whatever???
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Nieuwsblad
Nah, don’t think so
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
"beyond the ones he has already"
majope - July 24, 2011
I suck at reading the question
My bad
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Well . . . the problem is gonna be hanging in for over 200k
the old G-W would have been possible, with a good team . . . but if Cavendish’s FTP numbers are in the McEwen range . . . he might best stick to GT bunch sprinting.
R Mc - July 24, 2011
He hung in for ~300 to win MSR.
majope - July 24, 2011
300 easily cruising Italian sunshine kilometers
versus 200 shit weather (usually) cobbled racing kilometres. Colour me sceptical.
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
I doubt shit weather is a foreign concept
to someone from the Isle of Man.
majope - July 24, 2011
I bet it isn't
Just saying it’s not just the length of the race that matters
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Paris-Brussels
Though that’s not exactly a super-classic
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
If he's planning on braking Merckx record without winning the GC,
he should try to break Merckx record at Milan SanRemo. If he wins that race 8 times it would mean something.
flying dog - July 24, 2011
More GT stages
He’s at 30 now, only one behind Coppi – he could pass him in the Vuelta and be in the top ten before the end of the season
Of course he isn’t even halfway to Merckx (64) on that chart, and even reaching Petacchi (48) would take two more great years.
I do suspect he would really like to break one of the Merckx records (Tour stages or GT stages) before he retires, even though he won’t admit it in public – possibly not even to himself.
po8crg - July 24, 2011
That is such a poor assessment of Cav
Cav loves this sport and especially the “classics”. Even he he’s not competitive, he begs to participate in the big one day classics. He wants to go down in the history books with quality wins. Amassing the most TdF sprint wins is just around the corner. It may always remain a childhood dream, but he wants a P-R or Flanders win. But know that he has ambitions.
sminer - July 24, 2011
I think you missed my point
I know he has ambition, I was just querying what exactly. I can’t see him winning P-R or RVV, however much he enjoys the Classics (and we know he does), I’m unsure of where he can turn to next and win.
snickwell - July 24, 2011
Gotcha
Good question then.
sminer - July 24, 2011
Cadel the first winner of the TdF from the Southern Hemisphere!
dees ees en drama - July 24, 2011
Wait a second...CBS is showing a Tour highlights show.
WTF? Isn’t Vs./Universal an NBC station?
majope - July 24, 2011
CBS still has the contract with ASO
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Had no idea.
majope - July 24, 2011
Rolland, Coppel, Jeannesson
All French, all in the Top 5 in the Young Riders competition. Do you drink the kool-aid that French cycling is coming back in the near future and that the TdF drought ends?
With Ferentz Like These... - July 24, 2011
Rolland is lucky that ...
… Coppel and Jeannesson are there to make a group of “future of French cycling” riders. Being the sole one would seem likely to chew him up and spit him out.
BruceMcF - July 24, 2011
Rolland stands to make some money on his next contract
You’d think that teams would be falling all over themselves to sign him. How much is a potential French future TdF winner worth to sponsors?
MJB - July 24, 2011
Dunno
seems like every French village has a potential French future TdF winner . . .
how many have we been treated to in the last decade?
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Kevin De Weer just told on tv
Rolland was a huge talent in the youth categories. He got a huge salary when he became a pro and as a result he took things too easily, didn’t train as he should have, didn’t live as a pro and as a result he became 5 kg heavier. It looks like it took him three years to regain his focus.
broerie - July 24, 2011
"I told you so"
Jens - July 24, 2011
-t
broerie - July 24, 2011
Er schuilt een Limburger in iedereen
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Voluntarily?
broerie - July 24, 2011
Deep down
Everyone is cool. Just sometimes it’s covered in layers of Vlaanderen.
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
You mean I'm an onion?
broerie - July 24, 2011
you stink?
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
I make women cry
broerie - July 24, 2011
Wait,
Limburgers are considered cool in Belgium?
tedvdw - July 24, 2011
they are by me
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
well
there’s Danny Cool Rocket…. But doesnt’he live in Ghent?
;)
broerie - July 24, 2011
Oh I am chugging that kool-aid
I want to believe in these riders, Rolland clearly has the mountain climbing skills, Coppel’s got decent potential because he can climb and tt well, and I honestly know nothing about Jeannesson’s skill, but he’s young and showed some pinache at times.
agl - July 24, 2011
?
broerie - July 24, 2011
pineapple
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
mixed with spinach
broerie - July 24, 2011
Healthy smoothie alert.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
very gross one
i think
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
Haha, let a typo go?
Hasan Paliwala - July 24, 2011
it was a funny one
I’ve made hundreds on this forum, so actually I’m not the right person to criticize others
broerie - July 24, 2011
That's ok
now I know how to spell the word. Not one I see in writing much
agl - July 24, 2011
agl is hungry
cut him some slack
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
panache
whoops
agl - July 24, 2011
I'm not at all sure it's Kool Aid.
There’s been a clear shift in approach among the French teams to training, rider development, and racing. It’s been noticeable for a couple of years, and if the general sense that many have that the peloton is cleaning up pans out, then it also seems very likely that the reputedly much cleaner French teams are also benefitting from that in terms of their competitiveness.
Ed K - July 24, 2011
well . . . a couple of years ago
the only SRM you saw on a French-team bike was Rein Taaramae’s SRM amateur
Now, many more are showing up on French team-bikes (save TV’s of course).
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Hell, I eved start seeing them in Belgium
Bart De Clercq uses one!
broerie - July 24, 2011
honest question:
Is Belgium not exactly a “scientific training” country?
R Mc - July 24, 2011
not at all
most riders train the same way as in the 1970’s:
go very slow on easy days,
go very hard on hard days
that’s it.
No doctors, wattage-experts, tests, … Most pro’s determine their own training schedules. A lot of pro’s don’t even use a HR-monitor.
A pro I know rather well, has bought a Powertap. He rides with the thing all the time but has absolutely no idea what he should do with his data. And what’s even worse: his team (Belgian World-Tour tean) won’t allow the riders to use Powertaps, SRM’s or other powermeters. Not in races and not even in training. So what he does is illegal.
Guys like Gilbert, Leukemans, De Gendt,… are proud of the fact they don’t use training devices.
broerie - July 24, 2011
A lot of guys are very successful without scientific support,
but I’d like to, see the young riders use powermeters a bit more. And I’ve got a feeling that the attitude of riders like Gilbert isn’t really helping.
broerie - July 24, 2011
Anglo-saxons are lightyears ahead of us ath this point
broerie - July 24, 2011
if nothing else
numbers are always very motivating in training
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Scientific follow up too
broerie - July 24, 2011
And italo-Swiss too.
R Mc - July 24, 2011 via mobile
Gilbert, at least, has an SRM head-unit
On his handlebars.
R Mc - July 24, 2011 via mobile
Because he has to
but only in races
broerie - July 24, 2011
Chartreau (of polka dot fame)
uses no bike computer at all while racing.
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
that is not uncommon actually
some riders just don’t want to know their data while racing (HR195? WTF I’m about to explode). Others only use it to know distances or for pacing.
broerie - July 24, 2011
BPM = 195?
Yeah, you kind of already know that you are near your upper limits; it’s that pounding sensation running through your entire body :-)
muk - July 24, 2011
i dont really need to look at any devices to see that i am exploding
in races. except for an itt it is usually for historic/recording/fadigue etc….post race
perezbike - July 24, 2011
I understand
Completely useless while racing. If a break goes, you can’t let it go because you’re 0.5% above your threshold.
tedvdw - July 24, 2011
but he has nothing
no speed, no kms, nothing. Actually except when riding alone i never look at any of that stuff either. But he did say he thought he was the only member of the peloton to have no counter at all on his bike.
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Only thing I could imagine to be useful sometimes is distance
and speed when in a pace line.
tedvdw - July 24, 2011
Knowing power is super-useful in situations like the one Evans was in
the last two Alps stages (and in time trials . . .)
After a while of using power, I’ve stopped thinking in terms of speed and much more in terms of power: as in “that gap’s gonna take 400w to close etc.”
I rarely look at the thing IN races unless I’m on the front or having to chase, but analyzing the files to see what went right or wrong is very useful.
R Mc - July 25, 2011
But that's what I meant: useless in races
That gap just has to be closed, damn the watts.
tedvdw - July 25, 2011
i doubt the change in training approach explains more than 5% of the change we're seeing.
the french, who have been slow to adopt modern training techniques, have had crappy results in the past decade.
the belgians, who have used a similar approach to training, have had WCs, monument wins… in the past decade.
the difference between the two? the french have been under a bio passport since festina. now that everyone is subject to the uci’s passport, things level out. i don’t see any correlation with training methods. as far as i can tell, it’s a bullshit excuse used by dopers to try and justify their dominance. just like the reason the french didn’t all embrace lance was because they were bitter an american was winning their race.
ant1 - July 25, 2011
Cadel enjoying the parade
Voeckler and PhilGil visiting the podium
He got the yellow bike back
The real baby Schleck in Lux. colors
Katiek - July 24, 2011
Love the kangaroo pic!
majope - July 24, 2011
Last one is adorable too
broerie - July 24, 2011
As has been said, It was a great Tour for viewers. Now for a pointless exercise, what if....
Wiggins, Vino, Kloeden, Horner, JVDB, etc. hadn’t crashed out?
Do you think that would have made the racing any better? Or would it have somehow detracted from what we saw?
Would Andy’s day on Izoard/Galibier have been any different with a fuller GC contingent?
Would Thomas Voeckler have had his time in yellow?
Chester Copperpot - July 24, 2011
It would have had to.
Vino always attacks, Wiggins may have given help for others.
DriftNasty - July 25, 2011
Against a dark grey October sky, the 4 horsemen ride again (oops, wrong sport)
He likes his green shirt
The Brothers Schleck on the podium
Millar and Vande Velde celebrating
Katiek - July 24, 2011
Bet we'll see the corresponding pic from Millar's camera on Twitter before long.
majope - July 24, 2011
I'll take Famous horsemen for 400, Alex
Jens - July 24, 2011
Replace 610x.jpg with 1000x.jpg for a larger version
(higher number just adds grey border)
tedvdw - July 24, 2011
uhh, if it's more than a simple llnk, I'm lost.
Katiek - July 24, 2011
It's a little trick I found out for Daylife photos
All your links end in “610×.jpg”; change that to 1000×.jpg and you’ll get a larger photo.
tedvdw - July 24, 2011
And where the height of the pic is greater than the width
… such as with the shot of Cav, then the magic number is 950 ;-)
Lou... - July 25, 2011
Should Andy try to win the Tour of Colorado in August?
Its been beat to death, the notion that Andy doesn’t play to win unless he is at LBL or TdF. And we just saw Andy soft-pedal through much of another one-wk sUS stage race at the AToC in May.
But maybe he should just go for it in Colorado. Why not? Even in post-TdF hangover form he should be able to win it on the mountain stages.
Chester Copperpot - July 24, 2011
Dunno if GS posted this yet
But Belgium’s quality press was amazing – once again – this weekend.

De Morgen published this amazing article:
broerie - July 24, 2011
i see will's fan club there on the right
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
And Will is on the left with the cap
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
He would have had the shoe too.
So no.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Why do they call him Thierry?
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Good question!
broerie - July 24, 2011
Maybe there was some sort of bet between Belgian and British newspapers?
majope - July 24, 2011
Referring to the Michael Cavendish story?
broerie - July 24, 2011
Yes.
majope - July 24, 2011
I mean, CAN it be a coincidence???
majope - July 24, 2011
On one hand I think this is more likely to happen in Brittain
where cycling is only a SSS (Shit Small Sport) whereas in Belgium it is huuuuuge.
On the other hand Cav is Brittish of course. Journalists should know their world-class athletes.
broerie - July 24, 2011
So who'd have won?
The English? Or the Belgians?
Hard to say IMO. Misspellling Cav’s name is unforgivable, but giving a stage winner in the TdF a wrong name is terrible too. I dunno what is worse actually.
broerie - July 24, 2011
Let's just wait
until someone in the Aussie press congratulates Carl Evans. Geen ballen, geen winst.
majope - July 24, 2011
Marcel Evans?
broerie - July 24, 2011
Alfy Schleck
Burrito Contador
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
Heh. We've got to watch them all for a couple of days...
majope - July 24, 2011
I thought that it might be some kind of name play to someone else.
But I can’t see it. Thought that maybe someone who understood Flemish could tell me. But maybe it’s not intentional. Actually, it’ probably not since they continue it in the text.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Nope, just plain stupidity
Biggest race of the year and they cant’ even get the name of the stage winner right. And this is Belgium, home of cycling. What a disgrace!
broerie - July 24, 2011
i'm thinking its a reference to Thierry Henry and having the va va voom :)
Jonny_Red - July 24, 2011 via mobile
The new Sandy Casar!
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
Samuel Casar, you mean.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
oh, right
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
Randy Castor
broerie - July 24, 2011
He's not a porn actor
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
He may have an undercover career.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Are you sure?
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
majope - July 24, 2011
Ah yes, the classic "pre-condom" masterpieces
to be found in the national archives now
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
the rear reflector is pure class . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Safety comes first.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Not in a pre-condom classic.
majope - July 24, 2011
Hahaha
rec’d
broerie - July 24, 2011
Touche.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Not to mention the brakes on the bar-tops...
…and the extremely upright riding position.
Ed K - July 24, 2011
and the suicide brake levers . . .
Think that jersey’s sort of supposed to look like a TI Raleigh jersey . . .
R Mc - July 24, 2011
Suicide brake levers...
…that’s the term I was looking for.
Ed K - July 24, 2011
WTF?
broerie - July 24, 2011
Porn and cycling have a long history together.
majope - July 24, 2011
Amazing
Why was this hidden for me all this time? I’m old enough now…
broerie - July 24, 2011
Is that the Spanish champ jersey?
I’ve seen worse.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
Belgian I'd say
broerie - July 24, 2011
Too ugly for that
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
I agree.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
not anymore
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
Hehe,
castor is french for beaver
broerie - July 24, 2011
And they do it twice!
In the infobox as well.
tgsgirl - July 24, 2011
DM...
sigh!
broerie - July 24, 2011
Interview with Bertie on Danish TV.
Getting ready to partyyyyyyyyyyy!
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Belgian tv showing an interview with Chiara
I think I just fell a little bit in love with her. The Italo-English is just too sexy.
You think Cadel would mind if………..?
broerie - July 24, 2011
Her husband just won the Tour.
I’m guessing she’ll stay home for a bit.
majope - July 24, 2011
but cadel will be on the road riding all those crits
she’ll be bored
yeehoo - July 24, 2011
Oooh
nobody deserves such lonelyness. I’d better get into action!
broerie - July 24, 2011
Always ready to help a women in need, are you?
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Any particular reason why you're asking this question?
broerie - July 24, 2011
;-)
.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Oh, give your nieces a kisss from me!
(Zzzing!)
broerie - July 24, 2011
I'm visiting them tomorrow!
Will do.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
Yeah, but think of the threat about his dog
and imagine what he’d do if you, ah, stepped on his wife.
majope - July 24, 2011
I wasn't exactly thinking of stepping on her
;)
broerie - July 24, 2011
You're a true gentleman.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
haha!
broerie - July 24, 2011
Word on twitter
is that Stapleton has a new sponsor, and a bigger budget.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
Boy, I sure hope this is corrrect!
broerie - July 24, 2011
Me, too!
And if Cav hasn’t actually signed elsewhere yet, this would be the time to wave a nice hefty contract in front of him, while he’s still all misty-eyed from his 3rd Champs win.
majope - July 24, 2011
that and a little drunk
Katiek - July 24, 2011
Cav doesn't drink
andrewp - July 24, 2011
Respect, yo
although I read that while enjoying some wine. :)
dees ees en drama - July 24, 2011
probably a good idea given his mouth
ant1 - July 25, 2011
Said in ITV interview that he doesn't during the season
which implies that he does outside the season.
po8crg - July 25, 2011
Radsport
In German. Nothing signed, but Stapleton is very optimistic. There are two options.
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
And it sounds like HTC isn't an option
TheFigurehead - July 24, 2011
How awesome is this? Yeah wrong race but it's me
http://www.facebook.com/giroditalia?sk=app_7146470109
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
That's pretty cool.
gizzardfanny - July 24, 2011
So far
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
oh dear. a monster has been created.
umwolverine - July 24, 2011
The most awesome monster ever, you mean
Douglas Ansel - July 24, 2011
Giro is actually Italian for 'cool'
I’m sure Phil will agree
broerie - July 24, 2011
Understatement
Phil H. - July 24, 2011
What did I miss?
JustJoshinYa - July 24, 2011
Okay, the journalists are definitely fucking with us.
Britain again, The Daily Mail:
Thierry…Philippe…whatever.
majope - July 24, 2011
Fench guys, their names are all the same...
or some such?
Ed K - July 25, 2011
WTF!
gizzardfanny - July 25, 2011
Oh, poor Jacques Rolland
You win the white jersey and still no one knows who you are!
tgsgirl - July 25, 2011
what's the white jersey for again?
yeehoo - July 25, 2011
Leader in Brixia tour I think
broerie - July 25, 2011
I coninued our little experiment today
But 1 only found one misspelled name in De Morgen, and it’s not even funny

broerie - July 25, 2011
I'm already looking forward to next year's prologue.
*sigh *
gizzardfanny - July 25, 2011
You can start drooling/dreaming here.
flying dog - July 25, 2011
Oh, that's a lot of spots
in which you can see the riders twice! Awesome. Time to start picking my spot.
tgsgirl - July 25, 2011
+1
though I wanna see some cobbles in spring first…
Le Comte - July 25, 2011
i'm gonna go ahead and make some comments without ready the rest of them first
i spend the weekend away from the internets and am just now catching up to the tour results.
5 frogs in the top 15?
3 out of 4 in the U25?
go Cadel!
can we start calling Andy pou-pou yet?
ant1 - July 25, 2011
Re Andy, not yet
We might want to wait a few weeks.
TheFigurehead - July 25, 2011
+1
since you’re frenchie you can say frogs, I’m only a roast beef
Willj - July 25, 2011
there's a little frog in you
ant1 - July 25, 2011
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